What are the major differences between Grandnode v1 and v2?

Wednesday, July 28, 2021 12:47:10 PM
  • Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:14 PM
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I'm going through the documentation at https://docs.grandnode.com/ and noticed that it still refers to the previous version. Is Grandnode v2 mostly a back-end rework with a new face lift? When reading the documentation for the previous version, what things I should keep in mind that are no longer valid for v2?
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  • Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:40 PM
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In sum, I also do not see much difference between the old Grand Node and the new one, except for a cosmetic change in the appearance of the panel. The same options are moved.
Still no major features for sale what is required, well you will have to patch this store with a million plugins ...
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  • Posted: Friday, July 16, 2021 6:24 AM
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Marcin wrote:
In sum, I also do not see much difference between the old Grand Node and the new one, except for a cosmetic change in the appearance of the panel. The same options are moved.
Still no major features for sale what is required, well you will have to patch this store with a million plugins ...


As I said previously, if you have an idea how to improve our e-commerce platform, feel free to contribute, you can do it with pull request, open source works in that way. In the case of "patch this store with a million plugins" the majority of our customers have operating stores that make a profit, and the only plugins that use them are those to accept payments or integrate software with ERP systems. Everything else works without any problems, and without creating hundreds of plugins.

@jcuello, In the case of documentation, https://docs.grandnode.com refers to the v1 version and it won't be changed. We are working on a new documentation page for GrandNode 2.0, as it's independent platform. It will be released within the end of July.
Best regards,
Patryk

GrandNode Team
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  • Posted: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:35 PM
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yes, for basic foreign stores with minimalism and simplicity, I do not doubt that payment plugs are enough, for 80 percent of Polish stores not.  It is enough to compare it with other stores like shopgold, shopgo, ebexo, redcart, cstore or others.  you have half the basic things, hence the statement that the store needs to be expanded with thousands of plugs because it's true.  Waszsklep indeed has extensive functions that other stores do not have, but it lacks the basis.  I have already submitted 3 suggestions for hints on how to make this store a genius tool that beats other stores, but no one is interested in GN.  I myself am not able to make plugins or corrections because I do not know about it, my task is to sell and my store is demanding as to products, operation and options.  As I wrote before, my single product has over 12-15 thousand combinations which GN is not able to grasp.  The shop points system is also poor compared to the competition, I mentioned this topic twice, you created your GN v2 and copied the same options as in the old GN, hence the statement that here is only visual cosmetics done.  I will rather move to it, but as I said, for it to be a functional programmer, hundreds of plugins are waiting to be made.  I am not saying this to bring you closer to someone, just to direct you.  greetings
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  • Posted: Friday, July 16, 2021 5:01 PM
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Patryk wrote:
In sum, I also do not see much difference between the old Grand Node and the new one, except for a cosmetic change in the appearance of the panel. The same options are moved.
Still no major features for sale what is required, well you will have to patch this store with a million plugins ...

As I said previously, if you have an idea how to improve our e-commerce platform, feel free to contribute, you can do it with pull request, open source works in that way. In the case of "patch this store with a million plugins" the majority of our customers have operating stores that make a profit, and the only plugins that use them are those to accept payments or integrate software with ERP systems. Everything else works without any problems, and without creating hundreds of plugins.

@jcuello, In the case of documentation, https://docs.grandnode.com refers to the v1 version and it won't be changed. We are working on a new documentation page for GrandNode 2.0, as it's independent platform. It will be released within the end of July.


Thanks @Patryk, congratulations on the V2 release! I'm not sure how big your team is but I know you have limited resources and sometimes things just takes time. I rather you not rush it and have a working release with minor bugs. Looking forward to the updated documentation.

Marcin wrote:
yes, for basic foreign stores with minimalism and simplicity, I do not doubt that payment plugs are enough, for 80 percent of Polish stores not.  It is enough to compare it with other stores like shopgold, shopgo, ebexo, redcart, cstore or others.  you have half the basic things, hence the statement that the store needs to be expanded with thousands of plugs because it's true.  Waszsklep indeed has extensive functions that other stores do not have, but it lacks the basis.  I have already submitted 3 suggestions for hints on how to make this store a genius tool that beats other stores, but no one is interested in GN.  I myself am not able to make plugins or corrections because I do not know about it, my task is to sell and my store is demanding as to products, operation and options.  As I wrote before, my single product has over 12-15 thousand combinations which GN is not able to grasp.  The shop points system is also poor compared to the competition, I mentioned this topic twice, you created your GN v2 and copied the same options as in the old GN, hence the statement that here is only visual cosmetics done.  I will rather move to it, but as I said, for it to be a functional programmer, hundreds of plugins are waiting to be made.  I am not saying this to bring you closer to someone, just to direct you.  greetings


Just because Gradnode at the moment doesn't fit all of your needs doesn't mean other people will find it useful. And saying 'no one is interested in GN' is a false statement, I'm currently interested in it and evaluating it for a project.

I find that source code is very clean, has decent documentation and speaking as an independent software developer I have the ability to customize things to my client's needs. And like Patryk said, this is the beauty of open source software, if you feel like adding more features to it you can suggest them. But that doesn't mean you'll get it whenever you want to, they have other priorities and limited resources. If you don't have the skills to modify it yourself, you can go ahead and hire/contract someone who does. You can even possibly sell it and make a profit. The software is free, the labor is not always free.

Saying all this, I'm not trying to pick on you @Marcin and I still encourage you to suggest features or report bugs on any open source project you find interest in.
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  • Posted: Friday, July 16, 2021 10:40 PM
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Not once did I write that no one is interested in GN, I don't know where you got such a theory from, for sure not from me, because I didn't write anything like that. Read statements with understanding. I wrote that a lot of plugins are required for my shop so that it can be adapted to some extent compared to competing skeps. And that's a huge difference. The GN team is not interested in contributing their solutions. I have already given suggestions more than once to develop this store. However, to participate in the development, even by creating your own plugins for GN and for the use of others, you need to become a partner, i.e. buy one of the packages (nonsense)
https://grandnode.com/partnershipprogram
a bit sick that as a person who wants to sacrifice his plugins (make them available) for the development of the platform, he still has to buy not cheap members so that he could post such plugins for others.
So I don't know what are you talking to me about now? I understand that you are willing to devote your time (or a programmer to donate plugins for the development of the company) and still pay them for it? Unfortunately, I do not understand this mentality and approach.
I will still stand by my opinion that the potential of the store is great, but not quite compared to the competition. Besides, GN is not the only Open Scure platform.
Is :
PrestaShop
WooCommerce
OpenCart
osCommerce
Magento
I understand that a native company from Krakow has its goal of earning money from plugs is a normal thing, after all, for your hard work to do certain things, you should be remunerated.
I am glad that the POLISH company is developing and is known more and more
I'm a fan and that's why I wanted to help, but as you can see, GN doesn't necessarily want that, which is a pity
There is one certain rule when creating a trading (store) platform
you have to have an idea of ​​what the sales look like from the inside, and unfortunately these people do not have such knowledge.

I honestly thought that many things and problems that I discussed on the forum and directly with Patrick on the e-mail would somehow be introduced because there they covered themselves not with their license and restrictions, but nothing really changed. What a pity ...
Apart from that, my countryman hurts the most that a Polish company that also fights for the Polish market publishes a store platform in only one English language.
It is made up of Poles or it was difficult to earn money right away, also the native language so that the entire platform is properly translated and respected for your nationality.
Believe me, people do not know English and the translators in the browser do nonsense.

That's what I wanted to say
I am not an enemy but a friend!
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  • Posted: Monday, July 19, 2021 5:55 AM
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Hello Marcin,

Let's clarify a few things. Suggestions do not mean that we will implement them in the next version. We have our own roadmap for the product, and we are following it since the beginning of it. If any of the proposals we find interesting and will be used by the majority or a large part of users, we usually introduce them. If, on the other hand, suggestions are made by one user and they are not repeated frequently, the demand for such functionality is negligible and falls down in our priorities. Nevertheless, we appreciate every suggestion that comes to us.

Anyone can create plugins and we don't ask for money, so don't provide inconsistent information. A fee is required when you want to publish these plugins on our website, our marketplace. And this is only due to taking care of the quality of products, if we make it available on our website, we must be sure and guarantee that the plugin meets all quality and safety standards. There are many open-source platforms that share a similar business model and it works great.

In the case of competitors and the potential of the store, I'm convinced and I can prove that we can easily compete with WooCommerce, OpenCart, osCommerce, and many other platforms that are well known and recognized in the industry. If some functionalities do not suit you, it does not mean that the platform is bad and cannot compete with another. Perhaps you just need a different platform in your store.

In the case of the polish language of the product or website. The majority of our customers and potential customers come from foreign markets, so we are focused on other languages than polish.
Best regards,
Patryk

GrandNode Team
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  • Posted: Monday, July 19, 2021 1:42 PM
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Patrick, I understand all of this, which is why I figured I would need a million plug-ins to get this store to the point where it is usable and then some, and I don't have a subscription store!
I do not understand only one thing that a Polish company releasing software does not release it with the Polish language package as a standard.
I would not be surprised at the foreign company, because for them to release another language means time and cost.
Have you ever seen any German stores or software which in addition to English would not have the German language as standard? Because I have not.
That's what it's all about.
Now I'm wondering if it's worth to move to GN v2 because I don't know if I will ever get a polish version of the store (panel) and I can't imagine working on english version.

Greetings

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